Trigger timing[edit source]
I am curious about the "trigger activates before battlecries" phenomenon, since other summon-triggered cards have different timing. Is there a recent recording of this (i.e. it hasn't been patched)? I tried to duplicate it 10 times in practice mode and it NEVER gave it charge (0/10). And, there are several "known bugs", one of which states that NOT triggering on battlecry-buffed minions is the bug - but couldn't it be the other way around (it's SUPPOSED to only trigger after battlecries), which would be more consistent with other cards' rules? There's no citation for that bug - is there any developer comment on this?
I also note that this and Hobgoblin are the only on-summon triggers in the game with conditions that can be changed by battlecries & auras.* If it turns out that battlecry-modified stats really don't affect its triggering, we might be able to make some general conclusions about conditional-trigger-on-summon timing and add them to the advanced rulebook...but I'll leave that discussion until we've actually confirmed that behavior still exists.
(*Other summon-triggers have conditions: minions of a certain type. But type can only be changed by transforms, and according to the bugs here regarding Faceless Manipulator, that's a whole nother buggy can of worms, which makes it pretty much impossible to draw any conclusions from it.)
- Thanks Tao for the citation and explanation! I still feel like it's silly to consider at a bug at this point when it seems to be so consistent, but you've laid it out well :) - jerodast (talk) 02:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm curious if this and Hobgoblin's behaviors are identical, and how they interact. Hobgoblin's page has no relevant notes, for instance whether auras can keep it from triggering the same way they do with Warsong Commander. Unfortunately I haven't gotten the card yet to test myself.- jerodast (talk) 04:23, 31 January 2015 (UTC)