Talk:List of powercreeped cards

About sorting cards

So previously the sorting was Neutrals first than all classes in alphabetical order which looked neat, now they're sorted by the time they were introduced, and even though it's easier to edit, it actually looks worse because of how of a mess it is. Should it stay that way or be reverted to previous norm? Adusak90 (talk) 16:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

• It wasn't even sorted alphabetically before. --96.67.147.214 17:16, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

• • I was about to start sort things out to make it all follow the same trend, most of these already were following the trend except of the newest addons to the mix. The 2/3s and 3/2s for example. Adusak90 (talk) 19:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Should Pilfer be powercreeped by Hallucination and Swashburglar

Pilfer is said to be powercreeped by both Hallucination and Swashburglar, is it though? Pilfer works differently than these two by giving you card from any class other than rogue, while the two other cards still work with the old burgle mechanic and gives you cards specifically from the enemy hero's class. Is this difference small enough to justify the powercreep?Adusak90 (talk) 02:46, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

That entry was created before Pilfer was changed. No, it does not constitute a powercreep anymore as they have different positive effects, and those positive effects cannot be evaluated against each other. Cactusisawesome (talk) 03:52, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Is silencing your own minions considered negative?

As in the title. The surge of 4 mana summoning copy of something spells actually made me discover, that Unsleeping Soul isn't present as powercreeped cards by both Molten Reflection and Germination. There is nothing about silencing allies counting as negative effect but there is still a counter-argument that it can make cards like Ancient Watcher better.

Logically silencing an ally according to rules already set about negative effects having specific combos (Like enraging minion via Whirlwind effects) should be considered negative and the combo ignored. I'm gonna leave this open if anyone wants to discuss it further.Adusak90 (talk) 16:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I think Unsleeping Soul should be kept off the list for the reasons you described. It's a sidegrade, and it's specifically design to be a sidegrade. However, given that, Storm's Wrath should be taken off the list as well.

Also note that Soul Split is a worse version of both Molten Reflection and Germination. TheMurlocAggroB (talk) 18:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking about it last night and got to conclusion, that we should treat it as negative. Since this page was ignoring sidegrades like tribes and overload (stating that overload is indeed negative, the same goes with discard). I'm open for further discussion, if you have any counter-arguments.Adusak90 (talk) 17:11, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Mo'arg Artificer

Should Mo'arg Artificer be listed as a power creep card? For reference, its a 2 mana 2/4 with text that 'technically' benefits both characters equally, whereas all other 2/4's: Argent Watchman, Nat, The Darkfisher, Vulgar Homunculus and Unpowered Mauler all have effects that, again usually, are bad for the player.

Effects that "technically" benefit both characters equally are not interpreted as not having effects. If that was so, cards like Coldlight Oracle and Jungle Moonkin would be powercreeped by many cards. Those type of effects are to be excluded from the list.Cactusisawesome (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)